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VIRGINIA CABBIE FACES 48 YEARS IN PRISON AFTER DRIVING ASPIRING TERRORIST TO AIRPORT
Murtaza Hussain
2016-05-27T22:10:26+00:00

I once read that before the mullahs’ revolution, up to 50% or Iran’s male population were informers

It would help if you would remember where you read that. On the NY Times?

Since Iran has never been an aging population and since you are talking about “male” population, that would approximate the snitching @ssh0l3s to general population ratio to 15%, which, quite honestly, I doubt. If everybody “shares responsibility” (the funny way in which gringos call -snitching-), then no one is “productively” snitching (as they themselves fear)

East Germany had similar proportions.

Again, from where did you get that data? In the case of East Germany it is easy to check:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi

Personnel and recruitment:
Between 1950 and 1989, the Stasi employed a total of 274,000 people in an effort to root out the class enemy.[12][13] In 1989, the Stasi employed 91,015 people full-time, including 2,000 fully employed unofficial collaborators, 13,073 soldiers and 2,232 officers of GDR army,[14] along with 173,081 unofficial informants inside GDR[15] and 1,553 informants in West Germany.[16]
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Since there were 16 million East Germans in 1990, snitching @ssh0l3s to general population ratio would be:

(264096 = (91015 + 173081)) / 16000000 = 1.65%

I lived in East Germany and very well learned about the stasi. I was bothered by them (followed around on the streets), summoned for “clarifications” (for making fun of them, communism) and even offered a “job” by them and I can tell you that people didn’t mind the stasi as much as you would like to believe, even though they were doing their best to instill fear in the people. People were bothered way more by their perceived lesser quality of life (as compared to West Germans’), not being able to travel wherever they pleased, …

I (lbrtchx) did myself call Hubertus Knabe’ bluff:

I would like for him to do some comparative anthropology on repression. At that 1.65% stasi rate given the current 324 million U.S. population, don’t you think the FBI, CIA, NSA, … employ more than 5,346,000 people including “unofficial informants”?

They themselves list some 100,000 as “employees”: FBI: 35,104; CIA: 21,575; NSA: 35,000; USAID: 3,797. But that figure is deceiving. Informing prior to Iran’s mullahs’ revolution or during stasi time didn’t mean the same. Nowadays were all carry two-way tele prompters, recording absolutely all we do, that were considered utter dystopia during those times.

I live here in NYC which is a snitching cesspool. In addition to those “fusion centers” they have employers, business affiliated “programs” such as “nexus” with mandatory snitching cells. Imagine, even the FBI has had public bickerings with the NYPD (which has its own “‘Intelligence’ Division & Counterterrorism Bureau”) about what they have been doing even outside of their jurisdiction.

I am curious about the snitching @ssh0l3s to general population ratio in the U.S. including “unofficial informants”. Of course, when that “happens” in “‘the’ land of ‘the’ ‘free’ …” it is different, since they do it “freedom-lovingly”

truth and peace and love,
RCL
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INTERCEPT BROADENING ACCESS SNOWDEN ARCHIVE WHY

THE INTERCEPT IS BROADENING ACCESS TO THE SNOWDEN ARCHIVE. HERE’S WHY
Glenn Greenwald, May 16 2016, 11:37 a.m.

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broadening-access-to-the-snowden-archive-heres-why/?comments=1#comments

… that [Snowden leaks] be released in conjunction with careful reporting that:
a) puts the documents in context,
b) makes them digestible to the public,
c) safeguards the welfare and reputations of innocent people.

Glenn on §a you/TheIntercept definitely get a passing grade even if nowhere near a perfect score. You have indeed contextualized those documents, but (IMO) not entirely well covering their true reach, as well as in their proper and true dimensions.

On §b, don’t take it from me. As I have pointed out before, John Oliver did masterfully illustrate why and how you have failed miserably:

// __ Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO)

youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M
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Don’t you find §b a bit “responsible”? What makes you think you have the right or “responsibility” to stand in the way of people knowing how they are being played, blackmailed, harassed, persecuted and, in many cases, experimented with and even tortured and fatally hit by their governments?

It may all be a terminological misunderstanding and you definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt, what exactly do you mean when you say “make them ‘digestible’ to the public”?

On §c, I would agree with you against the Catholic Church when they claimed that “… the innocence of the human soul was corrupted by the seduction of the serpent …”

In fact, I happen to personally know “Innocence”. She is a sensual, witty, downright good looking and sexually appealing girl who used to walk the streets of Havana. Rappers have even dedicated to her a hip-hop tune: “little princess”

// __ Los Aldeanos – Princesita

youtube.com/watch?v=33fc_ZTKJVo
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“Innocence”, “Faith”, “Hope” and “Charity” know each other well. They are just not the same kinds of girls.

Yet, the “Innocence” that matters to me when it comes to such issues, is the one of thousands of children, women and men being killed by USG without even having a clue as to why they are being killed or having the power of abstraction to understand what “signature strikes” are or the “logical” perversity of “freedom-loving” double-tapping strikes institutionalized by “God bless ‘America'” U.S. President Obama. The “Innocence” of those whose mental prowess can’t even begin to understand how those agents in the collateral murder video (“innocently” assuming they would never be heard, their actions seen) make fun of the people they are killing even mockingly saying (something along the lines of): “they well deserve it for being at ‘the wrong place at the wrong moment'” … Most likely they won’t be able to understand what you mean by “innocence” either (something you/TheIntercept could yourself test)

I think anyone with a healthy sense of reality could see a difference in kind and degree between different types of “innocences”: serving as a SRC snitch or pressing a joystick to “surgically” kill dozens of unsuspecting people, who may have not had a chance to sense, let along conceptualize their lives’ fate; or the self-servingly chosen pretentious innocence of the German government when they claimed to have taken at face value the answer of their gringo counterpart about the base at Ramstein/Germany or probably it is all about the innocence of Maxwell’s formulation of electromagnetism, which makes the speed of light a seemingly innocent invariant; yet, fast enough to enable the military command centers in the U.S. to operate real time their drones on the other side of the globe in their version of 24×7 sigint world wide war; or the innocence robed from many children in the middle East who fear playing outdoors, would rather remain inside drawing drones and having nightmares about themselves or their loved ones being killed by one …

Many are self-serving and boastful, designed to justify budgets or impress supervisors.

Well, yes, comedians are included as “interested parties”, too, right?

Further information about how we prepared the documents for publication is available in a separate article.

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/how-we-prepared-the-nsas-sensitive-internal-reports-for-release/

In keeping with The Intercept’s editorial standards, we redacted the names of covert agents and the names and contact information of government personnel who are neither high-ranking nor already publicly associated with the NSA. We also removed information if we believed its release could cause serious injury or death to innocent people.

Quite a bit of obfuscation in that paragraph. It seems to have come straight from U.S. Academia.

Again the word of the day seems to be “innocence”. It seems to have become the “I was just following orders” of our days. If you think of it, terrorists are downright “innocent” as well. They hate, kill us “for having a free media”.

Should we thank the Intercept for their “innocence”, too?

the NSA’s comments resulted in no redactions other than two names of relatively low-level employees that we agreed, consistent with our long-standing policy, to redact

Oh, thank you very much the Intercept! Not only are you “keeping your editorial standards” and “taking into consideration NSA’s opinions” (I would love to just enjoy the prosody of those conversations), but also you seem to have the literary touch not to forget Dante’s depictions of the underworld.

… and also ensured that stories that most affect specific countries are reported by the journalists who best understand those countries.

Ha! That was a joke, right? Thank you for keeping your sense of humor alive. “Journalists who best understand those countries” may be the best ones at lying to and manipulating “We the people” in “those countries”

… allowing other journalists full access to the archive presented security and legal challenges that took time and resources to resolve.

I wonder if I am the only one who notices how common doublespeak has become. You don’t have to be an EL major or a computer programmer to notice the huge bug biting that statement’s butt.

There are also documents in the archive that we do not believe should be published because of the severe harm they would cause innocent people (e.g., private communications intercepted by NSA, the disclosure of which would destroy privacy rights; and documents containing government speculation about bad acts committed by private individuals (typically from marginalized communities), the disclosure of which would permanently destroy reputations).

Are we talking here about the kind of stuff that Michael Hastings was about to reveal? He however died “innocently”, indeed …

Again, am I the only one who notices how common doublespeak has become? Even by those supposedly fighting against it?

Glenn, we consider you smart and knowledgeable enough to see that (whatever you mean by) “privacy rights” “‘will’ not be ‘destroyed'” by you or the Intercept. In fact, we consider you smart, knowledgeable and morally grounded enough to realize it is your effing job as a journalist to raise public awareness about such issues. Why is it that Western media talks about all kinds of sh!t (true, imagined, as a way to justify their own …) about the stasi, the KGB, that Chinese Internet Wall, … but not about their own?

Do you, guys, remember that “Socrates of the NSA”? (just saying such a thing would sound odd to anyone with some healthy sense of reality):

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/11/surveillance-philosopher-nsa/

We quickly indeed figured out who that insufferably idiotic “NSA patriot” was. Has anything happened to that idiot (not caused by his own idiocy)? What do those NSA morons think of themselves? I mean at the point that some people even believe someone to be “‘the’ Socrates of the NSA” you could expect they also have a “Saint Francis of the torture teams of the CIA”. Do those NSA kinds of morons really believe morality is a closed-doors, “patriotic”, “by invitation-only” club membership thing?

Why should we respect “their innocence”? They don’t have anything to hide right? You can say that Peter McIntyre works even as a low level mechanic or janitor for the U.S. Air force. Why can’t you say he works for the NSA?

I’ve always believed that WikiLeaks’ reporting on and disclosure of the materials provided by Chelsea Manning and other sources have been superb. But that does not mean that it is the only viable framework, or the optimal tactical approach, for all leaks.

We consider you smart, knowledgeable, morally grounded enough and with plenty of prior art, “precedence” (if you prefer that wording) backing your actions to realize what is the right thing to do. Imagine the collateral murder video had been “‘redacted’ to standards”. Sting’s song’s stanza (from when we used to have songs) goes: “If You Love Somebody Set Them Free” …

// __ If You Love Somebody Set Them Free

youtube.com/watch?v=LSGl3d4KOMk
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You can’t possibly understand, respect truth and then see yourself in the “responsible” position of compromising it so that it becomes “digestible to the public”
WikiLeaks did not only show the raw footage of that video but did identify every single person affected in the video (even the mother of the kids whose husband was killed while “innocently” and compulsively acting on his sense of humanity, even while he had two small children to care for) and visited them to show them what actually happened.

IMO, until they “watch the(ir own) monkeys get hurt” and they are forced to “shock their monkeys to life” it will all be “jogo belo”. In order to “help” them get to that point we will have to “Fox the fox”, “Rat the rat” and “ape the ape” …

// __ Peter Gabriel – Shock The Monkey

youtube.com/watch?v=CnVf1ZoCJSo
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At times I wonder if you understand you are trying to speak a language of “morality”, “humanity” to the NSA, politicians, military and police.

Not long ago a good friend of mine let me know about Karen Stewart

Initially she was furious about my opinion

But, she then may have seen “the light” and we have become friends of friends of the same cause.
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truth and peace and love,
RCL
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theintercept 20160506: daniel berrigan peaceful-opposition-to-vietnam-war-inspired-generation-of-activists

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/06/daniel-berrigan-a-leader-of-peaceful-opposition-to-vietnam-war-inspired-a-generation-of-activists/?comments=1#comments

DANIEL BERRIGAN, A LEADER OF PEACEFUL OPPOSITION TO VIETNAM WAR, INSPIRED A GENERATION OF ACTIVISTS, Betty Medsger

What a character!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Berrigan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Berrigan_bibliography

George Orwell warned us about techno sh!t becoming way too ubiquitous to be ignored by negative forces, our own conscious and moral short-comings and the dangers of newer generations becoming careless and dumber

Chomsky is of the opinion that, generally speaking, Vietnam era protests were not as wide spread and conscious as we would like to believe nowadays:

// __ Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald & Noam Chomsky 2016 – A Conversation on Privacy

youtube.com/watch?v=278WyUKbZP8
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Snowden conjectures the time gap between major scandals becomes shorter, whistle-blowing becomes contagious

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/03/edward-snowden-whistleblowing-is-not-just-leaking-its-an-act-of-political-resistance/?comments=1#comments

while Il Duce reminds us of the old saying about the difference between optimism and pessimism:

As the old saying goes, the optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, the pessimist fears this is true.

and I think, as it happens with pathogens, we counterproductively risk the danger of aiding the very cause we are fighting by helping people “habituate” those issues if we do not use that information in ways that are not clearly understandable and actionable to “We the people”

People wonder what would have been of Sir. Isaac Newton if he would have had a cell phone (via Phil Ebersole’s Blog):

I wonder how many of use wonder if all we are doing is “freedom-lovingly” becoming brainless, and while we are at it, dumber and fatter

// __ George Carlin: education and the owners of America

youtube.com/watch?v=AMqJvhmD5Yg

RCL
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theintercept 20160503: edward-snowden-whistleblowing-is-not-just-leaking-its-an-act-of-political-resistance my niggah …

Snowden, my niggah:

I couldn’t sleep for two weeks from the time Glenn’s early articles started appearing on the guardian with those first reports, interviews in Hong Kong to when you safely resurfaced in Moscow. I simply could not stop thinking and talking about you, ranting on the guardian kind of hoping that would somehow be helpful to you. I quite literally (even in a in a somatic way) felt they were going to get me. So, I laughed when you said you didn’t lose your sleep at all, that in fact you felt relieved to have finally released all that data …

Einstein (mocking the French, Germans; nationalism in general) said: “If my theory of relativity is proven successful, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German and Germany will declare that I am a Jew.”

I think you are way too caught up on “American”/gringo sh!t. You not only are “a citizen of the world”, but humanity. In fact, I think you are one of the most loved living individuals in the world and people and “history” will align their minds to yours for a long time.

They learn to live not just with untruths but with unnecessary untruths, dangerous untruths, corrosive untruths.

One of the most peculiarly amazing things I have learned in the U.S. is that lies are not just “tools” but industries.

Now here we are in 2016, and another person of courage and conscience has made available the set of extraordinary documents that are published in:
The Assassination Complex: Inside the Government’s Secret Drone Warfare Program, by Jeremy Scahill, The Staff of The Intercept
Hardcover: 256 pages
Publisher: Simon & Schuster (May 3, 2016)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1501144138
ISBN-13: 978-1501144134

Great! But I would bet one of my balls that the kinds of people that bought, actually read and publicly discussed that book are very few and a very specific type of folks. What I think we have failed at miserably is actually reaching out to “We the people” out there.

It may be my bias. I am a scientist, tech monkey; so, when I communicate is with the ultimate intention to solve a problem. It is virtually impossible to convince lawyers and such kinds of people to the contrary. They see everything as some rhetorical b#llsh!t and look for “legal standing” as a platform for more rhetorical b#llsh!t. Actually The Yes men (just two fellows):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yes_Men
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// __ The Yes Men Fix The World, P2P Edition FULL MOVIE (2009) (w/subtitles)

youtube.com/watch?v=OazUh0Ym8rc
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// __ “The Yes Men Fix the World”: In New Film, Anti-Corporate Pranksters the Yes Men Continue to Jolt Polluters and Profiteers

democracynow.org/2009/7/23/yes_men
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have been way more politically influential and effective at making the USG changes its policies than theIntercept without any “Snowden leaks” or Omidyar tits to suck on. Do you really need “leaks” to notice sh!t that doesn’t smell right? They not only do hilarious things such as reprogramming barby dolls to say such things as “Forget about a prince! Go girl, work hard! …” People, wondering about those temperamental barby dolls, started calling the stores!!!:-) The Yes Men have even written lesson plans in order for children to be properly educated!

… the time frame in which unconstitutional activities can continue before they are exposed by acts of conscience … it permits the people of this country to learn about critical government actions, not as part of the historical record but in a way that allows direct action through voting

Who are “the people of this country” (the people who dare to read pages on the Intercept?) and how exactly are they being informed about “critical government actions”? Don’t we see the pair of crazy @ss idiots we have as front runners for U.S. presidents? Or, what is it I am missing?

… those who perform these actions now have to live with the fear that if they engage in activities contrary to the spirit of society — if even a single citizen is catalyzed to halt the machinery of that injustice — they might still be held to account.

Come on, Ed! Patriots don’t live in fear of anything! First, they don’t give a f#ck; second, they are being “legally” protected even by theIntercept. I read here about two fellows that are being suit by the person they were torturing. I can’t wait to see that will happen in that case.

Ellsberg was in the top tier; he was briefing the secretary of defense. You can’t get much higher, unless you are the secretary of defense …
… Manning, a junior enlisted soldier, who was much nearer to the bottom of the hierarchy.

It doesn’t really matter how far up the chain of command you have been sucking it. I definitely think Manning’s release of the collateral murder video was more important when it comes to people’s conscious awareness around the world. In the U.S. they even wanted to pass laws to force private business to hire “patriots”, you wonder why. Also, there have been other important whistle-blowers criticizing USG, just to cite one:

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, by John Perkins
ISBN: 0452287081
Paperback: 303 pages
Publisher: Plume; First Thus edition (December 27, 2005)

// __ Confessions Of An Economic Hitman

youtube.com/watch?v=AynGBMUgdmg (1/3)

youtube.com/watch?v=1sNV6h7DOyY (2/3)

youtube.com/watch?v=kOwE0nGLvR4 (3/3)

“We try to collect everything and hang on to it forever,” and everybody still thought that was a cute business slogan.

Ed, we know there are technical reasons for their actually “collecting almost everything” (in fact, way more than they need), we have no way of changing. So, let’s not waste time with that matter.

Change has to flow from the bottom to the top.

Yes, and the only way for that to happen is if “the bottom” is well-informed about what is going on and I see more in it than a “bottom-top” dynamic and don’t assume that “the top” is well informed.

As someone who works in the intelligence community, you’ve given up a lot to do this work. You’ve happily committed yourself to tyrannical restrictions. You voluntarily undergo polygraphs; you tell the government everything about your life. You waive a lot of rights because you believe the fundamental goodness of your mission justifies the sacrifice of even the sacred. It’s a just cause.

For the Chinese to then hack their @ss badly!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach

that has been the best example of poetic justice I have ever seen in my life. They were even saying that “that data could be used to blackmail people”. Oh, really? I was cosmically happy when I learned of it.

… the United States as the “uncontested hyperpower.” We now have the largest unchallenged military machine in the history of the world …

I don’t really know what you are trying to get to here. Are you trying to be sarcastic or something? First that “hyperpowerness” they have never put to a true test. Chaplin was run out of the U.S. for questioning why it was taking so long the U.S. to get involved in WWII. A cursory check of U.S. History will show you that all US military “patriots” have ever done is messing with people who can’t defend themselves on an equal basis.
Do you remember those pictures of the U.S. Central command occupying the whole page of the of the NYTimes when they were fighting a few fellows in mountains in Afghanistan? How come you don’t find “pictures” or “comments” in the U.S. media when it is China or Russia?

Also, what is the point of all that “hyperpowerness”. Does stocking TNT in your cellar make your family safer?
We seem to have a hard time understanding that we are just almost a piece of dust in a remote part of the universe which due to certain chain of anomalies condition life all the way to your beliefs of “God being on our side” and all that kind of cr@p

There are such wishfully hopeful idiots out there like Steven Pinker saying that there are less and less wars. I am not so sure if this is a good way to look at it. Only Israel has a nuclear arsenal capable of blowing us all many times over, but well, they should know best since they are “the chosen ones”. I am a Physicist, so I know well the true dimensions and scale of what such imminent failures should cost us. In a sense it makes total sense that life on earth would end like that. At times I am even hesitant when I think of the possibility of pro creating. We humans have been the species that made possible not only to destroy itself, but life on earth altogether.

… the Obama administration’s killing program reveal that there’s a part of the American character that is deeply concerned with the unrestrained, unchecked exercise of power

and people chose him over McCain …and people some people think Hillary will be better than Trump …

… there is no greater or clearer manifestation of unchecked power than assuming for oneself the authority to execute an individual outside of a battlefield context and without the involvement of any sort of judicial process.

Obama was making fun of his own Nobel Prize award

there is no greater or clearer manifestation of unchecked power than assuming for oneself the authority to execute an individual outside of a battlefield context and without the involvement of any sort of judicial process.

// __ Obama Brags About Out of Control Drone Strategy

youtube.com/watch?v=vAah_HYFsgk

… solar-powered drones that can loiter in the air for weeks without coming down

Shooting those down shouldn’t be hard at all

Unrestrained power may be many things, but it’s not American.

Will they ever get tired of using the adjective “American” as it by definition means righteousness?

By preying on the modern necessity to stay connected, governments can reduce our dignity to something like that of tagged animals, the primary difference being that we paid for the tags and they’re in our pockets.

I don’t see any other way of putting it. Politicians have reduced us to that level. It was very easy for Indian people to destroy the telegraph. They never did. We have many ways to show to them were are not exactly tagged animals. Will we make use of them?

Here we see the double edge of our uniquely American brand of nationalism. We are raised to be exceptionalists, to think we are the better nation with the manifest destiny to rule.

One of the things that I find odd about gringos is that they seem to self-evidently see morality as a club membership thing.

There is an essential and huge difference in the way gringos self righteously see themselves and how the rest of the world sees them.

// __ The Top 4 Most Mind-Blowing CIA Operations You’ve Never Heard Of | Big Brother Watch

youtube.com/watch?v=opyymMi50rk
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RCL

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theintercept 20160428: new-study-shows-mass-surveillance-breeds-meekness-fear-and-self-censorship Orwell’s clarifying “why” letter

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/28/new-study-shows-mass-surveillance-breeds-meekness-fear-and-self-censorship/
Glenn Greenwald

Orwell: By the way, what happened to that essay I wrote letting people very clearly know I wasn’t kidding at all, nor was I exclusively taking about Stalin era “freedom-hating” lowlifes?

Orwell: Sorry, I can’t quite make sense of the hell you are living through in your times guys. I still believe there is only one kind of people. The self-serving differences that some emphasize are illusive. So, even if that “1984” title was a bit off, I think, you may find my morally futuristic whistleblowing useful. Politicians have in their own ways, it seems.

I think that I understand better now that gringo media darling, Carl Sagan, who seemed to be a nice and true fellow, but he totally misconstrued my own critical views as if they narrowly referred to Stalinist historical falsification when I was talking about us, people in general. So, don’t forget to read what I myself had to say (barely reformatted, by that RCL guy).
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/12/george-orwell-s-letter-on-why-he-wrote-1984.html

George Orwell’s Letter on Why He Wrote ‘1984’

In 1944, three years before writing and five years before publishing 1984, George Orwell penned a letter detailing the thesis of his great novel. The letter, warning of the rise of totalitarian police states that will ‘say that two and two are five,’ is reprinted from George Orwell: “A Life in Letters”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell_bibliography

edited by Peter Davison and published today by Liveright. Plus, Orwell’s advice to Arthur Koestler on how to review books (thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/15/george-orwell-teaches-you-how-to-review-books.html)
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To Noel Willmett
18 May 1944
10a Mortimer Crescent NW 6

Dear Mr Willmett,

Many thanks for your letter. You ask whether totalitarianism, leader-worship etc. are really on the up-grade and instance the fact that they are not apparently growing in this country and the USA.

I must say I believe, or fear, that taking the world as a whole these things are on the increase. Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening:

(a) Stalin,

(b) the Anglo-American millionaires and

(c) all sorts of petty fuhrers° of the type of de Gaulle.

All the national movements everywhere, even those that originate in resistance to German domination, seem to take non-democratic forms, to group themselves round some superhuman fuhrer (Hitler, Stalin, Salazar, Franco, Gandhi, De Valera are all varying examples) and to adopt the theory that the end justifies the means. Everywhere the world movement seems to be in the direction of centralised economies which can be made to ‘work’ in an economic sense but which are not democratically organised and which tend to establish a caste system. With this go the horrors of emotional nationalism and a tendency to disbelieve in the existence of objective truth because all the facts have to fit in with the words and prophecies of some infallible fuhrer. Already history has in a sense ceased to exist, ie. there is no such thing as a history of our own times which could be universally accepted, and the exact sciences are endangered as soon as military necessity ceases to keep people up to the mark. Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it.[1] That, so far as I can see, is the direction in which we are actually moving, though, of course, the process is reversible.

As to the comparative immunity of Britain and the USA. Whatever the pacifists etc. may say, we have not gone totalitarian yet and this is a very hopeful symptom. I believe very deeply, as I explained in my book The Lion and the Unicorn, in the English people and in their capacity to centralise their economy without destroying freedom in doing so. But one must remember that Britain and the USA haven’t been really tried, they haven’t known defeat or severe suffering, and there are some bad symptoms to balance the good ones. To begin with there is the general indifference to the decay of democracy. Do you realise, for instance, that no one in England under 26 now has a vote and that so far as one can see the great mass of people of that age don’t give a damn for this? Secondly there is the fact that the intellectuals are more totalitarian in outlook than the common people. On the whole the English intelligentsia have opposed Hitler, but only at the price of accepting Stalin. Most of them are perfectly ready for dictatorial methods, secret police, systematic falsification of history[2] etc. so long as they feel that it is on ‘our’ side. Indeed the statement that we haven’t a Fascist movement in England largely means that the young, at this moment, look for their fuhrer elsewhere. One can’t be sure that that won’t change, nor can one be sure that the common people won’t think ten years hence as the intellectuals do now. I hope 3 they won’t, I even trust they won’t, but if so it will be at the cost of a struggle. If one simply proclaims that all is for the best and doesn’t point to the sinister symptoms, one is merely helping to bring totalitarianism nearer.

You also ask, if I think the world tendency is towards Fascism, why do I support the war. It is a choice of evils—I fancy nearly every war is that. I know enough of British imperialism not to like it, but I would support it against Nazism or Japanese imperialism, as the lesser evil. Similarly I would support the USSR against Germany because I think the USSR cannot altogether escape its past and retains enough of the original ideas of the Revolution to make it a more hopeful phenomenon than Nazi Germany. I think, and have thought ever since the war began, in 1936 or thereabouts, that our cause is the better, but we have to keep on making it the better, which involves constant criticism.

Yours sincerely,
Geo. Orwell
[XVI, 2471, pp. 190—2; typewritten]

[1]. and [2]. Foreshadowings of Nineteen Eighty-Four.
[3]. Compare Nineteen Eighty-Four, p. 72, “If there is hope, wrote Winston, it lies in the proles.”
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theintercept 20160428: new-study-shows-mass-surveillance-breeds-meekness-fear-and-self-censorship: natural, biological imperative …

https:theintercept.com:20160428: new-study-shows-mass-surveillance-breeds-meekness-fear-and-self-censorship: natural, biological imperative …
by Glenn Greenwald

The Catholic Church, as an example, had the integrity to articulate and publish to the four winds their Index Librorum Prohibitorum, which they had the spine and brain to mind to the section and paragraph of each published book.

Compare that with that abhorrent abomination called “the Patriot Act” which was passed in the U.S. without so-called “law makers” bothering to actually read it. Even that politician who came up with that “the Patriot Act” thing has loudly and clearly stated that the whole thing took a spin he never imagined in his wildest dreams. Quite honestly, and that could be actually tested, falsify; how many congress representative have the basic intellectual capacity (let alone the spine to fight it if they find it wrongful) to read and understand a high school level text? How many of them would pass high school level exams?

// __ Obama Claims He’s Visited 57 States

youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
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Well, our dear president probably meant “47” states, anyone can make a mistake and fatigue does that to your mind (but, what a mistake from a “constitutional lawyer”?!?) Now, is that the same “constitutional lawyer” who has thoroughly wiped his bl@ck @ss with the letter and spirit of the U.S. constitution by supporting FISA courts?, you wonder. What I find most interesting is how he somewhat artfully reacted and started to talk sh!t about “his staff” when he sensed people just couldn’t contained their laughters.

Could Obama actually talk without a teleprompter?

youtube.com/results?sp=CAM%253D&q=Obama+teleprompter+-theOnion

// __ President Obama’s Teleprompter Crashes During Speech!

youtube.com/watch?v=Jiow64UjuQQ
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// __ Obama’s Home Teleprompter Malfunctions During Family Dinner

youtube.com/watch?v=aXQTaWjMoFw
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I am a teacher and I do sometimes make mistakes (many of them on purpose) and I encourage my students to spot them as an attention, conscious awareness exercise. Perhaps politicians don’t want for people to be conscious and the media gives a critical help at keeping people as idiotic and deafferented of any kind of moral sense as it is strictly necessary in order to keep things running in a “don’t worry, be happy” way

musefish -> Pedinska: Apr. 28 2016, 6:05 p.m.

Do you think there is a natural, biological imperative that will arise within the collective human family that would have the mass of humanity rise up and crush the cancer of greedy, aberrant people and organizations (government)? I mean the question sincerely. History seems to bear this out.

Pedinska -> musefish: Apr. 28 2016, 10:58 p.m.
Don’t know.

I’ve never lived through a revolution. Then again, neither had others who’ve come before … until they were.

Actually, as Darwinism thoroughly proves there isn’t a grand design supporting human life at all. In fact, the difference between us, animals; and plants is just a type of cell (neurons) and the difference between our immediate hominid cousins and us is that we were damaged (some people would say “glorified”) by a cancerous-like mutation in our HOX genes which “endowed” us with an ridiculously vast amount of them in the frontal cortex. That is why we are so illusive and compulsively associating that we get so stupidly played and fooled by our rulers. In fact, we are the only social animals with such things as “duly elected” political representative, British royal families, celebrities, TV sets, NSAs, “patriotism”, . . .

If you, say, study the history of how Mathematicians have entertained illusions about, tried and failed proving one of the most beautiful obsessions we mathematicians ever had: Euclid’s Fifth Postulate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_postulate

you will clearly notice how we were conditioned by illusions created by the artifacts of our own senses (visual) and the tools we used (our own Mathematical devices). I think that also applies to many other personal (“my sh!t smells, better than yours”) and collective (“or course, ‘we’ are good ‘they’ are bad, so let’s get ‘our’ guns ready” . . .) illusions we entertain. Even our illusions about God and society are due to our need to generalize our thinking and emotions into a more functional, stable state.

I work on that kind of semiotics sh!t and have even written “irresponsible” poems about it:

http://hsymbolicus.wordpress.com/category/poems/ (lies …)

Also, Pedinska, they say “it is what is is”, but only partially so. What we should do now is what some people have always done: fight b#llsh!t That, at least, is very clear to us here.

You can take it from someone who was born into a family of high profile political dissidents (no, it is not “interesting”) and at least knows very well about Nazis and the stasi (I went to school in East Germany 1982-86). Way more than “what it is”, it is about “what you do with it

When I used to tell my dad, family (who were imprisoned by both governments, before and after the Revolution) that I despised my people for not fighting Castro b#llsh!t, he would point out to me that “there was only one kind of people”, that the reason why I was so upset about my own people was because “this is what/whom I knew” … I think the same applies to the era we are living through.

truth and peace and love,
RCL

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theintercept 20160422: judge-grants-torture-victims-their-first-chance-to-pursue-justice … links debunking this material

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/judge-grants-torture-victims-their-first-chance-to-pursue-justice

Will Parker: Apr. 25 2016, 1:58 p.m.

What good is encryption when the Government can read your mind?http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/scalar_tech/esp_scalartech12.htm

Little Help? -> Will Parker: Apr. 25 2016, 9:36 p.m.

Could Mona or some other clearly intelligent if somewhat abrasive skeptic kindl point us toward a few links debunking this material?

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/03/everyone-is-under-surveillance-now-says-whistleblower-edward-snowden

3) there is something called the mind-body link underlying the very essentially semantic aspects of reality

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/14/nsa-intelligence-committee-under-pressure-document
Could you tell me, are there also electromagnetic emissions from our brain and nervous system which are recordable just as compromising EM emissions from computer networks ?

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Even though I haven’t been able to narrow it down all the way to USG misinformation brigades (a lá Mirage Men (2013) and how they introduced addiction to hardcore narcotics among hippies during the Vietnam war to keep them quiet, “cool” (or as hippies themselves used to say “aware”)), I think USG has benefited greatly from such erroneous believes.

There are people who have committed suicide, because they actually believe their minds have been hijacked by USG. That video was posted by James Tracy, a writer, social activist, nice and true fellow whom I personally know:

// __ “My Experience as a Targeted Individual”

youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ZQurVAV3M

32:25 They are NOT able to manipulate your bodily functions and pain receptors
38:20 stalkers are NOT able to know about images originating in the target’s individual mind
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This is just a case of someone who took the time to openly talk about their own private experiences with persecution. There are plenty of documents (even if, IMO, at times somewhat confusing, misguided) about such abuses online:

https://youarenotmybigbrother.wordpress.com/

If you watch those videos in full you will notice that when Myron says “manipulate” he apparently means that you could hijack someone’s thoughts and emotions sort of like this:

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=brain+computer+interface&sp=CAM%253D

Police can torture and bother you as they have always had, but this is all there is to it. They don’t have any kind of “new technologies” that can read people’s thoughts and emotions from satellites and such cr@p. When people talk about concrete aspects of their beliefs about “how they read people’s minds” such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocalization

they are totally disregarding the important fact that those are totally mechanical behaviors. They have no way to “decipher” the qualia, feelings and/or if it ultimately comes to volitional acts by you (for example, generally speaking I find girls so beautiful that at times I feel like grabbing their butts as they walk on the streets … Now, does that mean I would do such a thing? that I don’t respect women, that I must be some misogynistic @ssh0l3 like Donald Trump? How could they “read” from such satellites that those feelings may be an anxious reaction to feeling so attracted to women … ). That is what they will ultimately need and I think it is impossible, because IMO our mind-body link (thank God!) is not mechanical; it is actually our semiosis, therefore there are 1st person aspects they can’t delve into due to the general ‘Saussurean arbitrariness’ of signs, which reflects on our minds as we go about our own intersubjective communication.

I have taken the time to read and study those issues, starting by José Delgado’s bull experiments:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Manuel_Rodriguez_Delgado
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// __ Jose Delgado and his Bull Story
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youtube.com/watch?v=6nGAr2OkVqE
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// __ Jose Delgado- manipulation without electrodes
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youtube.com/watch?v=S051A8doXP0
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// __ Physical Control of the Mind — Toward a Psychocivilized Society 1971
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amazon.com/gp/product/0060902086
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// __ Behavioural Neurochemistry April, 1977
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amazon.com/gp/product/047015179X
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and I can tell you that AI a lá Turing test and José Delgado’s bull experiments are all bull cr@p

You may find even technical people disseminating misinformation out there more or less subtly:

// __ Remote influencing technologies, the new terrorism of the 21st century

youtube.com/watch?v=HEuzwvz7nj4
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I think Lars Drudgaard is telling us something we all know: essentially, we are doomed; for two basic reasons:

1) technologies have always been a two edge sword, but nowadays they are way too ubiquitously handy as a negative, evil force in an all encompassing way

2) people is stupid, because people is stupid. We are just pretentious monkeys damaged (some people would say “glorified”) by way too vast an amount of neurons

Now what I find lacking about Drudgaard is his way of making his case with so much “persuasion”, misleading statements and suggestions (some of which he admits to). I am some scientist and technical monkey myself and I have lived under acute harassment my whole life. Each time I hear someone talking about people’s brains and minds being remotely monitored, or their consciousness being hijacked and turned into “unwitting spies”, I wonder whose purpose that serves. Drudgaard even says: “a person can be programmed to perceive anything”. He shamelessly decontextualizes Bill Bennie’s comments about the Bluffdale Utah remote storage facility used for “interrogation”, “processing”, when IMO Bennie meant inquiring, profiling, zeitgeisting the data about people not that people in mass are being “possibly” controlled through their “satellites implants” and radio waves …

I have tried to contact Mr. Drudgaard, his organization before to no avail. Moreover, I:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/01/targeted-individuals-us-01-must-avoid-arrests-obvious-crimes-centering-war-money-lies.html

// __ Zersetzung made in U.S.A. (Posted on May 27, 2015)

https://ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/zersetzung-made-in-u-s-a/

“Albretch Mueller” (aka silly me), happen to know at least two things about state repression (including the stasi). I did call Hubertus Knabe on a number of the points he was making in his ted talk:

http://www.ted.com/talks/hubertus_knabe_the_dark_secrets_of_a_surveillance_state

A previous long blog about my experiences (including the Zersetzung made in U.S.A. post):

// __ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes … (Posted on October 16, 2010)

https://ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes/

would go as far as myself consenting to totally public, openly documented, recorded and repeatable experimentation on such, so-called “mind control”, as a way to show that those “mind control” stories are some illusive b#llsh!t that our rulers use to play us, as the Catholic Church used to say that “demons have possessed your body” (and yes, “We the people” used to believe that one too!).

As TI friends and I were pondering over, wouldn’t they have hijacked our own minds?😉 (which, by the way, doesn’t totally explain out the issue at hand)

Politicians and police like to have us think of them as being “beyond good or evil” and dwelling in some Über-Physical, Über-Moral, Über-responsible reality when in fact there isn’t such a thing in reality, so they must frame those beliefs in our compulsively associating, illusive minds.

I hope my “abrasiveness” was a bit helpful😉 and, yes, at times I am ashamed at the anger I spill over in our fora. But as dentists say when their patients tell them that “it hurts”: “… it is supposed to hurt, if you have a healthy nervous system” … So, I guess, you are supposed to be angry about those kinds of matters we discuss at theIntercept.

truth and peace and love,
RCL

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