theintercept: 2016-11-14 trump-era-leaking

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/14/in-the-trump-era-leaking-and-whistleblowing-are-more-urgent-and-more-noble-than-ever/?comments=1#comment-309296

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Glenn Greenwald -> Ricardo Camilo López: November 15 2016, 6:22 a.m.

Isn’t it clear to you yet that by sitting on and “ethically” (as you say) redacting Snowden leaks, you have effectively helped the profusely “unethical” Trump thing happen?

I found that reply so weird and shaky that I wondered if it was actually Glenn’s. I was not only considered to be (or diagnosed?) a “‘literal’ sociopath” (wasn’t Glenn a lawyer turned into journo? why would he be now diagnosing people with unknown types of “mental disorders” (which validity have been even question by psychologist themselves)?), but obviously my initial point was very selectively twisted and misconstrued.

I will proceed to reply to that post in general regardless of if he actually wrote it or someone did trying to impersonate him.

Among the documents in the Snowden archive are MANY that link thousands of Muslim Americans and Muslims around the world to terrorism or terrorism sympathizing with no evidence.
It’s certain that at least some, if not most, of the people who are discussed are innocent.

More than “most”. We all, Muslim and non-Muslim people, know very well, that we are all considered guilty “until proven otherwise” and “proving it to them” will take away your life anyway, since they need “terrorists”. Everybody, including you, knows who are the actual terrorists anyway: USG and their all-lies, who have 8-timed the genocidal ratio of Nazi Germany during WWII (what you call “wanton slaughter carried out in Iraq and Afghanistan” pointing to the collateral-murder video Manning posted unredacted, unaltered to wikileaks).

If we were to dump these documents as you suggest, we would forever destroy their reputations and their lives – as many have themselves told us – by putting a terrorism cloud over their head for all prospective employers, friends, community members to see …

I still think the overriding issue here is the “reputations” and “lives” of those subjected by that “wanton slaughter”. What did they have to say? Do you think they cared about that “terrorism cloud over their head” you mentioned? Did you care to carbon date them to see how “radioactive” they were when they were killed?

Other documents in the archive – thousands and thousands- contain the personal communications of people. If we dumped those, it would destroy their privacy, their reputation, and wreak unimaginable havoc in their lives.

Of which kind of “people”, NSA employees, police and their snitches? Aren’t they the ones who have deprived the world at large of that thing you call “privacy”? Also, after the OPM hack (the Chinese own their @ss all the way to the late 70’s when they started to use computers), it is not really about spying any more but as you call it “their reputation”.

It’s basically viewing these human beings as collateral damage on the glorious path to whatever political nirvana you fantasize would be created if we dumped these documents.

I am not trying to fantasize any kind of political nirvana and I don’t give a sh!t about politics anyway. To me it is plain and simple basic morality.

Also, you are misconstruing my points as if you don’t get what I mean. What I have been talking about for quite a long time is all those high ranking officials from the U.S. MIC whose names and actions have been carefully “redacted” from Snowden leaks I have myself pointed to you/TheIntercept very concrete cases in those SID files that were posted, as well as, (after “ethically” redacting all those documents), your way of pontificating about such matters in ways that “We the people” can’t follow.

Many other people have been questioning your “ethical” ways. John Oliver even paid himself a ticket and went all the way to Moscow with an oversized picture of his junk to teach Snowden how you talk to “We the people”.

// __ Government Surveillance: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) LastWeekTonight

youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M
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Snowden seem to have been originally baffled, at the end he seemed to have joyfully gotten it. Once, again, why is it that two comedians (The Yes Men) have been very successful at making the most corrupt U.S. institutions change in important ways, have gotten corrupt officials behind bars and devaluated the stock shares of big corporation, while being called “cruel” and all kinds of adjectives by Western MSM?

// __ Inside The Panama Papers: Dirty Little Secrets

youtube.com/watch?v=TvPBM8zAc1o
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As you can see in both cases there was concrete information about actual deeds and agents for “We the people” to go after and so they did. We all expected to prominently see Putin’s face on those reports (even though they admitted that there was nothing directly about him (but his associates)). Prime ministers’ heads and many other big wigs were chopped and defaced. Now tell us about just one single (1) case in which anything concrete has been achieved based on Snowden leaks. You are a lawyer and you well know that you can’t indict or prosecute anyone based on insipidly redacted accounts. At times I wonder if you realize you are talking about humanity and morality to politicians and police.

I have nothing but unbridled contempt for people like you who want this, knowing that only others – but not you – would have their lives destroyed by it.

I have always found ad-hominem b#llsh!t hopelessly stupid and I am squarely fine with, careless about your feelings of “unbridled contempt” towards me. Once again, it is neither about me, nor about your feelings. Probably based on your “I must be right, because I talk it right” thing, you may be making very wrong assumptions. For reasons that are not quite clear to me, USG blacklisted my @ss in the FBI criminal index, so, using your language, “having my reputation destroyed” by them is the least of my concerns:

https://ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/zersetzung-made-in-u-s-a/

so it is not exactly what you want to believe, “understand”. I have lived all my life like that. You may not have had the chance in your life to sense what is like watching people harassing and being disrespectful to your mother and imprisoning family and teachers not even referring to you in school since you were a child. However, my towering mother never taught me to hate. She would instead take such incidents to teach me about “the human condition” instead of simply telling me those kinds of people where a bunch of @ssh0l3s (of course, a little boy can’t understand “philosophy”, but now I am very thankful to her spiritually and in deed). I do feel for Muslim, persecuted people, very naturally indeed, because I am one of them.

And that’s to say nothing of the fact that doing this would directly violate the agreement our source demanded – for good reason – we enter into with him about how we would and would not treat these documents.

Well, then stop talking about “gentlemen agreements” as if they were morally grounded. Politicians protect their politician friends and so do bankers, mobsters … but those are just gentlemen agreements.

So it’s never going to happen, and screaming that our decision to treat these documents responsibly helped elect Trump or spread the Zika Virus or caused the oceans to rise won’t change that even a small amount.

Are you OK?

truth and peace and love,
RCL
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WHEN FBI CANT CRACK PHONE GOES TO ISRAELI CELLEBRITIES

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Am I the only one who has noticed how theIntercept has been making “no comments” articles all those relating to actual individuals/agencies behind their write ups?

It may just be a mere temporal coincidence, but that started happening after that article about that NSA idiot who called himself “the Socrates of the NSA”. We figured out real quick who that idiot was.
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// __ WHEN THE FBI HAS A PHONE IT CAN’T CRACK, IT CALLS THESE ISRAELI HACKERS
by Kim Zetter October 31 2016, 11:12 a.m.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/31/fbis-go-hackers/?comments=1#comments

… since [cell phones] can yield not only detailed logs about a user’s activities, interests, and communications, but also, in many cases, map the user’s whereabouts over weeks and months to produce a pattern of life.

Come on, theIntercept! Be a bit educating to your readers. That sentence is missing the important clarifying coda:

… since [cell phones] can yield … user’s whereabouts over weeks and months to produce a pattern of life based on details logs traced and stratified from their GPS capabilities, which can be easily thwarted by placing your cell phone in a Faraday cage, simply a metal encasing and the NSA, GHQ, USG and their allies can’t do sh!t about it

… which siphons data directly from a phone’s flash memory chip. This can include deleted SMS messages and call histories as well as data collected by the phone and apps that the user is unaware is being collected.

Hmm! How come no one has come up with the idea of using a totally encrypted Debian-live based version for phone use running entirely from RAM? I think ubuntu has a phone version, but unfortunately they have started to put on sale their souls

Those Israeli snitching smart @sses will surely have a hard time fighting Physics

… That’s because some vendors — Cellebrite won’t say which ones, but Apple isn’t among them — ship a sample of their new phones to Cellebrite three months before they’re released, giving Cellebrite engineers a head start in cracking the devices.

“Cellebrite won’t say which ones, but Apple isn’t among them” …

OK, as you should have figured out by now we could be lying to you, since we are not supposed to tell you anyway, because our sugar daddies and those powerful governments we make good money from have gagged ordered us, but I will tell you that much …

Also, had you informed yourself well, with some tech monkey out there, you should have learned that there are just a few of those chips out of which all boards are made based on basic principles, so you don’t have to do all of them, Apple doesn’t have to be “among them” …

The company says it has been able to “crack the code to the screen locks” on a number of phone models, allowing it to access data on the phones without a password.

Hmm! Who would have known that making good money was that easy! Every script kiddie knows how to bypass windows with a free knoppix live CD, remove its admin password and reset it to whatever you want. In fact, whith a bit of C code (to mess with the filesystem without changing files’ metadata) you could make tacitly impossible to Windows and Microsoft to notice anything at all

How did they learn about it? Well:

1) you get a new Windows box and before calling MS “to activate it”
2) you boot it from a live CD
3) dump the BIOS
4) rsync all file systems onto similarly formatted partitions
5) run *nix find to created CSV files with all metadata and the md5sum of all files
6) make those files read on, with chwon and attrib
7) call MS and tell them your mom knows well you are a good kid … in order for them to let you “activate” your box
8) once your thing is running (preferably before and after connecting it to the Internet) repeat [2-5]
9) take those files to a different box and import them into a postgreSQL data base to compare them

you will see exactly which files where changed and how, and your mom will still think you are a good kid

… carriers like Verizon and AT&T like to customize the branded phones they offer customers by tweaking the operating system to disable and enable different features

Hmm! One of the nice things about physical reality is that, as they say, what works for the goose works for the gander. Oh! I meant to say if [1-9] works for MS, it will also work for Verizon, AT&T, Apple phones …

So the customers, Cellebrite won’t say which ones, asked for a way to show courts that data hadn’t been altered after it was removed from a phone

I am curious about the technical aspects of that part and willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. What exactly did they “show to courts” as a way to prove what?

RCL
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photosymbiosis ↪ Ricardo Camilo López: Aug. 22 2016, 8:23 p.m.

All that Manchurian candidate stuff is science fiction. As I note below, the whole “Communist brainwashing” line was a CIA propaganda effort from the 1950

“Manchurian candidate stuff”? … “CIA propaganda efforts”? … “photo symbiosis”?

Luria studied the mind of mnemonists. It is all too obvious how other types of “minds” react and strategize around their ways.

Myron May’s ex-fiancee was frightened of him and deeply worried when he’d show up at her apartment …

I remember I heard once Chomsky say that (the adjective) “real” was a “honorary attribute”. I have no idea what he meant. Of course, there is actual reality out there. Even if you “don’t believe” in gravity it will make you fall, biological life needs nutrients … Chomsky is primarily a language kind of person, so he may mean that in a rhetorical kind of way in the same way that TheIntercept’s journos consider themselves to be “ethical” for protecting the immunity of people committing crimes against humanity, or as they would say, “defending the truth” but only to an extent, that even comedians demonstrably make a much better job at bringing about concrete changes (which to me is the only valid reason for people to talk about whatever).

Something, I have learned well is that there is no such thing as “reality” when it comes to social affairs based on language (the realm of politicians, lawyers, religious leaders, …) everybody checkpoints reality in their own ways (checkpointing as used in computer programming, debugging code (sorry, I wouldn’t know how to express that concept in any other way with my English)). My ex-wife used to say to me that you see, “read” into what “you know”. I think that is unavoidably true to some extent, but still we all should have something empathy and a sense of justice. For example, one of the most amazing things about gringos is that belief they about morality being a “club membership” thing.

I think Mona is perfectly capable of explaining her position. I don’t know what it is, but from the posts I’ve seen, it seems like she believes it’s a form of paranoia.

again, when she talks about that particular topic all she does is go into her ad hominem fits and her endless cycles of opinions backed by opinions. Yes, she is capable of explaining herself but she carefully (and skillfully she may believe) doesn’t.

See, for just one example, her opinion about Myron May. She is saying something that to a certain extent is true and some other part of it (his girlfriend’s opinion as expressed to and/or by police). I have my own opinion about May. I think he was being harassed by police/FBI/CIA …

When I said about lots of Monas out there who about a year ago all of a sudden started relating terms such as “targeted individuals” with “satanic sects” and such b#llsh!t, there is a simple way to falsify what I am saying.

Here is a good example of “Monadology”😉

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/06/accusing-wikileaks-bias-beside-point/?comments=1#comment-265226

People like government contractors

If you mean the NSA stories should have included identification of NSA employees and contractors, why? In any event, Glenn Greenwlad has many times said that the documents include names and identities of people targeted by the NSA. These individuals should not be revealed, certainly not without their permission. And there could be hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of such names.

Notice how she:
a) refers to whatever Glenn says as if he were some kind of papal bul (or the very gospel?)
b) tries to dress equally the identities of victims with those of “innocent” government employees and contractors …
c) talks about “their permission” framing it in a legalistic way

I unsuccessfully tried to repeatedly call her b#llsh!t in that article with a simple question:

Have NSA employees, USG asked every citizen of the world for “permission” to indiscriminately monitor and surveille them 24×7?

which to me is the primary point to be considered when it comes to those individuals working for the NSA, but, of course, all Mona would do is resort to adjectives and ad hominem “you are crazy” cr@p.

I’ve always taught my children that 99.5% of the people we cross in our lives are just honest, hard-working people trying to make their lives and their family’s lives better.

Many people live their lives under circumstances which would not allow them to have such good-hearted expectations. Children in many countries fear playing outdoor because of drone attacks by “innocent” “freedom lovers” “ethically” protected by TheIntercept’s journos.

Also, I have seen many times in my life what happens to people when they realized their “good-hearted expectations” were just functional illusions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Galactus-36215 ↪ Galactus-36215: Aug. 22 2016, 10:46 p.m.

Just one disconnect I’d like to clarify. I was speaking about the US government and US justice system. Obviously in other countries, government behaviors of their police departments as far as political persecutions is quite real, frequent and obvious. (Ex. Iraq pre-invasion)

I, to me, totally new concept that I have learned about “‘the’ ‘free’ and ‘the’ brave …” is that in the U.S. lies are not just tools but industries. In fact, I even dedicated a poem to Rachel Corrie based on that gringo idea

https://hsymbolicus.wordpress.com/category/poems/ (lies …)

I can’t help making a point by fixing a bit your “clarification”. Yes, in those countries you mentioned political persecution is open, above board, but it doesn’t mean that in the U.S. it is “unreal” because they do it in covert, “responsible”, “ethical” ways, because “in the U.S. there are laws protecting civil liberties”. Now, any one with a sense of reality would laugh about such downright silly nonsense. It it like saying that soviets used to brainwash people, but in the U.S. people are not being brainwashed and manipulated 24×7 or that, “of course”, only “communist”, “freedom-hating” governments/people would spy and snitch on one another, but then when people in the U.S. and their allies confronted the truth about their own government “monitoring” every single individual 24×7 they simply shrugged it off with a little bit “it is only about metadata” help.

Gringos had been throughly brainwashed into the idea of unbounded individualism and privacy to the point of believing that not only to be “Christian”, “American”, but God itself to be some gringo. Yet, they didn’t react at all when they were dragged out of their denial by the partial revelations Snowden leaks. People all over the world were laughing about “‘the’ ‘free’ and ‘the’ brave …”. All of a sudden gringos had total and very convenient amnesia about having constantly made fun of those morally deprived, lesser idiots who would spy on each other …

It may relate to the fact that I don’t five a f#ck about “patriotism”, I even find amazing and downright hopelss how many of the people that frequent this hang out would buy into the idea of “ethically” protecting NSA agents!

In East Germany they even had public “(repression) Universities” where students would write their theses about Zersetzung, manufacturing and managing consent. In the U.S. they have it worst but they are not open about it because people’s rights are protected by the constitution. Now, could that downright silly, illusive b#llsh!t work? All you need to do is look at gringoland U.S.A. to answer your question.

In Cuba, an open police state, there are actual “protections” (and effective ones I many add) of the people against police abuse. Police in Cuba don’t give a sh!t about “constitutional rights” or being taped, in fact, they summoned you to the police stations to discuss with you face to face their repression plan (as crazy as it many sound to gringo mindset). They have even written it all in the “penal code” and would give you unredacted copies of their dealings. They thoroughly train police not to (fatally) abuse people (since a dictatorship if a form of flagrant abuse anyway):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/21/raul-castro-demands-return-guantanamo-bay-obama-visit#comment-71034070

In this case, you may see more than someone who was very abusively beaten by police:

// __ Testimonio de Antonio Rodiles tras brutal golpiza y arresto del 5 de julio 2015 (with English subtitles)

youtube.com/watch?v=305XilibeFA
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I’d have never thought repression in “‘the’ land of ‘the’ ‘free'” would be less open and less humane than in police state Cuba. They are getting there though in their own ways.

RCL

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https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowden-documents-confirm/?comments=1#comments

Like a year ago (prior to that NYTimes article Mona cited) people who know well about that kind of stuff (some of them victims themselves) started noticing a lot of “Monas” out there forcibly associating terms such as non-consensual human experimentation, mind control and MK-Ultra with “satanic sects”, “iluminati cr@p”, “the Church of Scientology”, “alien civilizations”, … We all realized those were just psy ops because people at large in the U.S. seemed to start getting a sense of what was going on …

We wondered who (what kind of Mona ;-)) that NYTimes assistant editor Mike McPhate was, since no one had ever heard of him. Notice how that he does not know or actually research any of it. He just recycles videos posted on youtube and sprinkled them with adjectives and contrived connotations.

Mona spends an incredible amount of her time making up stuff herself which then she cites to support her own opinions (and she is a lawyer, you know ;-))

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/09/fbis-shared-responsibility-committees-to-identify-radicalized-muslims-raises-alarms/?comments=1#comment-219716

I wonder how many times have posters at TI used the NYTimes to back their opinions. As of late Mona is not only resorting to the “Nazi defense” but also abysmally citing the NYTimes as if that carries any credit. If she wasn’t Mona I would have asked her if she was OK😉

-Mona- -> stalked562: Aug. 20 2016, 11:52 p.m.

You are another of those suffering from this paranoid psychosis. The NYT recently did a piece on you poor souls: United States of Paranoia: They See Gangs of Stalkers

by Mike Mcphate June 10, 2016

Her idol friend himself has extensively reported on JTRIG:

https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/?comments=1#comments

https://theintercept.com/2015/06/22/controversial-gchq-unit-domestic-law-enforcement-propaganda/?comments=1#comments

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/07/psychologists-work-gchq-deception-unit-inflames-debate-among-peers/?comments=1#comments

https://theintercept.com/document/2015/06/22/behavioural-science-support-jtrig/

As David Voigts explains in this article

https://targetedindividualinformationpackage.wordpress.com/2016/03/

“Specifically, the United States –and a few other industrialized nations- are engaged in non-consensual human experimentation.”

USG has always done so, they never stopped MK-Ultra kinds of “experiments”

// __ CIA Mind Control Techniques_ MK-ULTRA Program Brainwashing Experiments Documentary (1979)

youtube.com/watch?v=upToH3DSM9E
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// __ Is The Government Still Running A Mind Control Program?

youtube.com/watch?v=RxuBuJDY7o8
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// __ Age of Fear: Psychiatry’s Reign of Terror

youtube.com/watch?v=YA_MwaRLzm8
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// __ Human Torture in the name of Science

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQy6xVkiQuV56BeoRHj0E8pO902z1QP5E
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By the way I have repeatedly argued with Stan (whom I know personally) about his ways to deal with our kinds of problems. I have also suggested to him repeatedly to stop the constant offensive and counterproductive ping-pong especially with Mona in this public hangout. At times he has been very offensive to me too, but I have chosen not to waste my time and effort fighting, being disrespectful to him since it is very clear to me who my worthwhile enemies are. We have managed to keep as friends.

RCL

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theintercept 2016081 new-nypd-commissioners-focus-on-community-policing-is-a-distraction-not-a-solution

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/11/new-nypd-commissioners-focus-on-community-policing-is-a-distraction-not-a-solution/


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// __ There are Lies, Damn Lies and Then There’s ‘Community Policing’

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josmar-trujillo/there-are-lies-damn-lies-community-policing_b_6811788.html


New York City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito last month

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/josmar-trujillo-1-000-cops-article-1.2121970

proudly proclaimed a renewed focus on increasing the NYPD headcount by 1,000 cops for the purposes of ‘community policing’. In a statement after our rally

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/city-proposal-hire-1-000-nypd-cops-roasted-article-1.2131116

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Many of us continue to believe very strongly that this Police Department needs more police officers. And if we put in place effective community policing the way it is supposed to be, you need more officers on the ground interacting with communities.

Both Melissa Mark-Viverito and Guillermo Linares are part of “nexus”, a semi secret community policing/snitching program run by the NYPD used to gang stalk and harass people. All kinds of business from filthy bodegas to University departments in NYC must have their snitching cells.

Once I was sitting reading in a retired place around the Harlem Meer section of Central Park (some people and families leisurely sitting around) and she showed up out of the blue as part of a string of people who had walked by me uninterruptedly staring at in an angry offensive, totally unnatural ways for no reason whatsoever. Same thing with Guillermo Linares while I have visited housing meetings in Inwood. Mona will tell me I am just crazy but I know very well how those “community policing” snitching @ssh0l3s operate.

How do I know her/them so well? Well, she is a good friend of my ex-wife who is a social justice hot head and the director of picture the homeless. I have gusto at exposing those emming effing morons who don’t respect themselves to begin with. They are supposed to advocate for “We the people” instead of snitching for the NYPD

As it happened with Nazis, those idiots think that people don’t notice, that they easily forget, that they are actually “doing you a favor” …

RCL

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Ricardo Camilo López -> -Mona-: Aug. 7 2016, 7:20 p.m.
Mona:

I know you are not stupid or insensitive, so you very well understood my very basic and simple question:

Have NSA employees, USG asked every citizen of the world for permission to indiscriminately “monitor” and “surveille” them 24×7?

-Mona- -> Ricardo Camilo López: Aug. 8 2016, 2:12 a.m.

… self-evident … reasonable …

I knew people like you would never answer that very simple, basic (Yes or No + optionally substantiate) question and start instead tossing adjectives around.

They are not the decision-makers; they are the worker bees and some of what they do is benign. These are not public figures who make policy.

Wait, are you now trying to recycle that kind of “they are ‘only’ following orders” Nazi defense?

“Some” of what Nazis did was not only “benign”, but good. They baned tobacco (must probably would have junk food and soda, as well), they were very open and explicit about their b#llsh!t (even about the number of “terrorists” (10) they would kill if those would kill one of their own), they were “democratically elected” through a direct vote, they were not primarily abusive or as you would say they were “irresponsible”, not “free”, not “brave” … while “spreading democracy” (instead of invading Afghanistan, Haiti and Iraq they went head on against Britain, Russia and France), their genocidal ratio during WWII was (1/8) compared to the U.S. military’s and their allies’ in their current freedom-loving WMD wars, they didn’t have an NSA spying on the whole world …

Even funny mustache, braune Scheiße guy had “some” not only “benign”, but good qualities. He loved his dog to the point of wondering why it would go away when his wife appeared in his room.

Mona, how different are the “responsible” “gentlemen agreements” of Snowden and Greenwald to those of corrupt bankers and politicians “legally” protecting each other? I know, I know as a “targeted individual” I am “mentally damaged” so I can’t understand “this is not the same” …

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broadening-access-to-the-snowden-archive-heres-why/?comments=1#comment-232599

There are also documents in the archive that we do not believe should be published because of the severe harm they would cause innocent people (e.g., private communications intercepted by NSA, the disclosure of which would destroy privacy rights; and documents containing government speculation about bad acts committed by private individuals (typically from marginalized communities), the disclosure of which would permanently destroy reputations).

Why is Glenn Greenwald (whatever he means) protecting bad “private” individuals in “marginalized communities”? What exactly makes him believe he has the right to stand in the way of truth? Why is Glenn Greenwald using his rhetorical prowess to twist things around so that people, due to “privacy protections”, don’t have the right to know how their illusions about their privacy is routinely abused? Do you see Glenn is not only protecting “innocent” individuals, but pontificating about such matters in very general, philosophical ways so that it is virtually impossible to connect the dots leading to the “innocent” perpetrators and collaborators of those actions?

When the yes men have crashed and organized meetings posing as officials of U.S. agencies (even within their own premises!), they have been accused of, ready?: “lying”, not respecting “privacy”, of being “unmoral”, of “breaking the law”, of not being respectful of the sentiments of people affected by U.S. corporations/USG, … The Yes men are definitely not “ethical journalists” ((tm) Glenn Greenwald). Heck! They aren’t even journos, but just two comedians and they have been way more successful at not only getting corrupt politicians in jail, but also at making them stop lying and b#llsh!tti!ng around and change their own policies. There is not so much of an art to it, but integrity and truly believing in your sh!t. The yes men squarely get on their faces and their b#llsh!t in very personal ways! They are not into “redacting” the truth, adjective fencing matches and argumentative elitist b@llsh!t. Even dirt poor, “marginalized” people in remote places in India are elated about the Yes men.

Now, ask the parents of children who fear playing outside, have nightmares about and draw drones as “natural” part of their childhood and all those apparently not “innocent” people being “freedom-lovingly” killed with the help of the NSA if they understand Glenn’s “innocence”, “ethical journalism” or his legalistic linguistic carpentry (supposedly defending some high sounding concepts presumably relating to liberté, égalité, fraternité), or if they find “ethical” that the names of the agents behind those actions should be protected because Snowden had a couple beers with their buddies (I very much doubt he had more than two, since he kept his own thoughts and feelings to himself not even sharing them with his own live-in girlfriend); when, as John Oliver masterfully tried to explain to them, people’s minds are so brainwashed and fenced by Western media that they had no idea who Snowden was, and, those who didv parroted the “official” USG propaganda portraying it as an ethical breach thing!?! Even congress reps publicly admitted that they didn’t even know what “N-S-A” stood for!

Here NSA employees are even boastfully talking about torture as part of a “job description”:

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/nsa-closely-involved-in-guantanamo-interrogations-documents-show/

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2830617/2003-10-29-SIDToday-Can-You-Handle-the-Truth-or.pdf

yet, theintercept chooses to “redact” the name of that not so “low ranking”, “innocent” Lt. Col.

Thenintercept’s “ethical journalists” as part of their own self-serving philosophies, ironically indeed, criticizes USG, APA, … for double moral standards and profusely participates in smear campaigns against Assange.

Give Assange and all of us a break, pleeze!

truth and peace and love,
RCL

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What Julian Assange’s War on Hillary Clinton Says About WikiLeaks
by Robert Mackey Aug. 6 2016, 3:04 p.m.

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/06/accusing-wikileaks-bias-beside-point/?comments=1#comments

-Mona- -> Ricardo Camilo López: Aug. 6 2016, 8:58 p.m.

I remember once Glenn and Laura Poitras had an argument with Assange about “redacting” “compromising information” which Glenn has admitted of doing as a matter of course even when it comes to the “innocent” NSA employees. Assange criticized them for doing so and called them “racist”.

I have little idea what all of that is supposed to mean.

Even if you would protect your idol at any cost, I am a bit surprised you didn’t know about this back and forth between Glenn. Poitras, Assange and Appelbaum. This is what I am talking about:

// __ http://thedailybanter.com/2014/05/the-wikileaks-vs-greenwald-twitter-fight-julian-assange-threatens-to-reveal-deadly-nsa-info/

The Wikileaks vs Greenwald Twitter Fight: Julian Assange Threatens To Reveal Deadly NSA Info

Greenwald sparred with both Julian Assange and American Wikileaks hanger-on Jacob Appelbaum. The debate culminated in something that could provoke the first serious body-count from Edward Snowden’s foolishly irresponsible NSA document theft. BOB CESCA MAY 20, 2014

Assange lashed out against The Intercept and its editor John Cook, suggesting that it’s the prerogative of the citizens living in the redacted nation to revolt over NSA spying. Appelbaum jumped in and accused The Intercept of deliberately trying to make Wikileaks look comparatively extreme by redacting the information.

I totally agree with Assange on that one.

Glenn has very explicitly stated:

// __ https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broadening-access-to-the-snowden-archive-heres-why/

that [documents about Snowden leaks] be released in conjunction with “careful reporting” that … the “welfare and reputations of ‘innocent’ people [NSA employees] be safeguarded”

Consistent with the requirements of our agreement with our source, our editors and reporters have carefully examined each document, redacted names of low-level functionaries and other information that could impose serious harm on innocent individuals, and given the NSA an opportunity to comment on the documents to be published (the NSA’s comments resulted in no redactions other than two names of relatively low-level employees that we agreed, consistent with our long-standing policy, to redact).

Funny thing is that Glenn and other “respectful” “professional” individuals talk about this as if they were noble, morally grounded principles, when those are just “gentlemen agreements”.

USG and the NSA have been working hard at making people believe it is computers, technology to be blamed for spying on people, that they, physically and morally speaking, dwell in a different kind of reality we the proles don’t/shouldn’t have access to, so even the “interpretations” of that kind of reality should be off-limits to “We the people”. The funny thing is that politicians talk to us in that same way as if they were doing us a favor, with their self-servingly paternalistic b#llsh!t. Also, I am sure Glenn and like-minded individuals know well about COINTELPRO and MK-Ultra, in which a vast number of academic institutions in the U.S. and Canada participated non of which was ever prosecuted because they were protected by “privacy rights” and “gentlemen agreements”.

John Oliver in his masterful Anthropology explained to Snowden and Greenwald that you must talk to people in a language they understand, otherwise you are being disrespectful to them.

// __ Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Government Surveillance (HBO)

youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M
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Just two comedians, “The Yes men”, have been way more successful at dumping their sh!t on USG’s face; making them angrily, yet publicly, articulate and accept their wrong doings by themselves and change.

// __ The Yes Men Fix The World, P2P Edition FULL MOVIE (2009) (w/subtitles)

youtube.com/watch?v=OazUh0Ym8rc

youtube.com/user/yeslabmedia
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and the yes men do this without standing on the way of truth and having no sugar daddy’s tits to suck on.

-Mona- -> Ricardo Camilo López: Aug. 6 2016, 8:58 p.m.

Glenn has made it clear these people have a right to privacy and he won’t just dump their names out there.

Edward Snowden did not risk his life and liberty to embarrass low-level NSA employee/contractors by revealing their names. He’s said some of these people are his friends. It’s possible he even made it a condition of receiving the material that this not be done.

… “a right to ‘privacy'”? What are you talking about? Do you mean “a right to entertain illusions about that thing they used to call ‘privacy'”?

If I understand you to any extent, those are the very same people who have deprived humanity at large of “privacy” and they are using their “privacy” to 8x the genocide of Nazi Germany during WWII, protect corrupt bankers, companies and institutions; while spying and messing with NGO’s and civil and social justice organizations that have nothing to do with terrorism and such things.

Yes, I respect Glenn and Snowden, but Assange and the Yes men are my kind of niggahs. You must get on their faces. We have enough “responsibility” by the New York Times, FOX news and all those kinds of cr@ppy Western media outlets already.

People do notice sh!t! We have all been noticing how TheIntercept has been gradually, slowly going down the toilet. “We the people” don’t care about “responsibility” and those kinds of “give them cake” issues such as so-called “privacy”. It is not like theIntercept is incapable of understanding what “we the people” want. They have published before articles about that insufferably moronic “Socrates of the NSA” (just that concept would sound really strange to anyone who knows who Socrates was and has a healthy sense of reality, do they also have a “St. Francis as part of their torture gangs?”). However, their being able to conceptualize such a construct as the “Socrates of the NSA” clearly shows how deep into their @ss they have their minds. TI also published an article about that British “professional psychologist” lady (name included) who was protecting her rear end behind “confidentiality agreements” and lawyers, again a really awkward way to understand the scientific method.

In their latest installment they published a silly strip teasing act from another NSA @ssh0l3, but they didn’t allow comments from us at all (the first time I have noticed that at TI)

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/28/he-was-a-hacker-for-the-nsa-and-he-was-willing-to-talk-i-was-willing-to-listen/

So, now, at TI those “innocent” NSA employees not only get “protection” while they talk, but we are supposedly seen but not heard!

Even the shills that would constantly try to mess with our comments have taken a leisurable approach to it after noticing themselves how TI has changed to the point of “status”:”hold”(ing) our comments

truth and peace and love,
RCL
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