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Murtaza Hussain

I once read that before the mullahs’ revolution, up to 50% or Iran’s male population were informers

It would help if you would remember where you read that. On the NY Times?

Since Iran has never been an aging population and since you are talking about “male” population, that would approximate the snitching @ssh0l3s to general population ratio to 15%, which, quite honestly, I doubt. If everybody “shares responsibility” (the funny way in which gringos call -snitching-), then no one is “productively” snitching (as they themselves fear)

East Germany had similar proportions.

Again, from where did you get that data? In the case of East Germany it is easy to check:

Personnel and recruitment:
Between 1950 and 1989, the Stasi employed a total of 274,000 people in an effort to root out the class enemy.[12][13] In 1989, the Stasi employed 91,015 people full-time, including 2,000 fully employed unofficial collaborators, 13,073 soldiers and 2,232 officers of GDR army,[14] along with 173,081 unofficial informants inside GDR[15] and 1,553 informants in West Germany.[16]
Since there were 16 million East Germans in 1990, snitching @ssh0l3s to general population ratio would be:

(264096 = (91015 + 173081)) / 16000000 = 1.65%

I lived in East Germany and very well learned about the stasi. I was bothered by them (followed around on the streets), summoned for “clarifications” (for making fun of them, communism) and even offered a “job” by them and I can tell you that people didn’t mind the stasi as much as you would like to believe, even though they were doing their best to instill fear in the people. People were bothered way more by their perceived lesser quality of life (as compared to West Germans’), not being able to travel wherever they pleased, …

I (lbrtchx) did myself call Hubertus Knabe’ bluff:

I would like for him to do some comparative anthropology on repression. At that 1.65% stasi rate given the current 324 million U.S. population, don’t you think the FBI, CIA, NSA, … employ more than 5,346,000 people including “unofficial informants”?

They themselves list some 100,000 as “employees”: FBI: 35,104; CIA: 21,575; NSA: 35,000; USAID: 3,797. But that figure is deceiving. Informing prior to Iran’s mullahs’ revolution or during stasi time didn’t mean the same. Nowadays were all carry two-way tele prompters, recording absolutely all we do, that were considered utter dystopia during those times.

I live here in NYC which is a snitching cesspool. In addition to those “fusion centers” they have employers, business affiliated “programs” such as “nexus” with mandatory snitching cells. Imagine, even the FBI has had public bickerings with the NYPD (which has its own “‘Intelligence’ Division & Counterterrorism Bureau”) about what they have been doing even outside of their jurisdiction.

I am curious about the snitching @ssh0l3s to general population ratio in the U.S. including “unofficial informants”. Of course, when that “happens” in “‘the’ land of ‘the’ ‘free’ …” it is different, since they do it “freedom-lovingly”

truth and peace and love,
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Sat May 28 13:47:09 EDT 2016


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